Comments on: Dr. Ezekial Emanuel–Putting Seniors And Infants Last

By: What do you believe (oh ye Dems) Part One « A Heart for Any Fate

What do you believe (oh ye Dems) Part One « A Heart for Any Fate — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:57:51 +0000

[...] here’s the real link to read, just don’t read it late at night if you want to sleep. What you don’t know about [...]

By: Sarah Palin: “The President Made Light Of These Concerns”

Sarah Palin: “The President Made Light Of These Concerns” — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:47:40 +0000

[...] accusation, although I agreed with her, as I had just finished doing some research on my own about Dr. Ezekial Emanuel, Obama’s health care policy [...]

By: Welcome to Nobamacare.com! – Nobamacare.com

Welcome to Nobamacare.com! – Nobamacare.com — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:11:43 +0000

[...] a less technical approach here’s a fairly good article that explains the Lancet article co-authored by Obama Health Care Advisor Ezekiel [...]

By: Denny

Denny — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 02:41:41 +0000

The evil plans of the Democrat socialists must be stopped while still in Congress. To help defeat this attempt by the socialists to competely take-over America as we know it today through healthcare “reform,” I have written a blog entry on this very subject to alert my readers.

If we do not defeat them now, I believe it would be extremely difficult to reverse this coarse once it is put into law. I think the third largest employer in the world is the government-run healthcare system in the U.K.

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By: Obama Advisor: The Very Young and The Very Old Aren’t Worth Saving « Teh Resistance Blog

Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:32:42 +0000

[...] But Rahm Emmanuel’s brother Ezekiel is one of Obama’s key advisors on health care. Would you like to know what he has written about health care “priorities” under a gover…? “When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged [...]

By: kathy

kathy — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:19:03 +0000

Yes, I believe Hitler and Stalin would be proud of this man’s thinking…control population, get rid of undesirables, etc, etc, ad nauseum.
But I too wonder about the availability of procedures that people cannot afford except for the very affluent. My husband and I purchase what we can afford, not what we wish we could have and that goes for health insurance too. We purchase a minimal plan that doesn’t pay for office visits because we can pay that. To this point we are in good health. If we needed treatment that we could not pay for, I am not sure that we would have it. This is a complex issue, but I am not ready to give any government bureaucrat control over it to decide who lives and who dies. I think it still needs to be in the hands of the individual.

By: Conservative Pup

Conservative Pup — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:50:02 +0000

Sneed Hearn,
Appreciate your comment. You’re right in that at some point medical resources might have to be parceled out according to some system. However, I picture this happening in the case of some catastrophic event, whether man-made or a natural disaster of the greatest magnitude.

In a catastrophic event, there would probably be limiting and allocation of medical resources, but in an emergency this is called “triage.” All medical personnel are trained in triage, and practice “code black” drills annually at various places of employment. Sometimes an entire city will have one huge drill. Triage decisions are made by the medical staff on the scene.

This is different from what Dr. Emanuel was writing about in his article for the Lancet. I don’t recall that he ever qualified his position by stating that it was for emergency purposes only.

My point and position is that during non-emergency times medical care is available to all. You are mostly correct that the limiting factor is cost and ability to pay. But my point is that with the government-controlled healthcare they want for us, the “supply” of medical resources will decrease due to lack of private enterprise and the money that is currently made and spent on medical innovation. They will determine who gets what treatments all the time, not just during some major national emergency. This would just become the way of daily healthcare. I would rather have a free market health care system, where some treatments might be out of my financial reach, but at least possible–if I were to win the lottery–than to have a government-run healthcare system where those wonderful treatments just aren’t there for anybody anymore. Or, if they are, they are doled out according to some bureau’s “qualifying factors” with someone other than me or my doctor deciding if I qualify or not.

By: Joseph

Joseph — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:16:46 +0000

It’s funny how Liberals chant that “everyone has a right to healthcare”, yet with Obamacare, and Dr. Emanuel’s Complete Lives System, CONGRESS and other unknown, unnamed “doctors” are choosing who gets the healthcare. They will place priority on certain people, thus, in reality, choosing who gets the treatments necessary. Everyone has a right to healthcare, but only the ones that they deem worthy.

By: Sneed Hearn

Sneed Hearn — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:27:05 +0000

It’s time for a yeahbut. There is no clear path to a good answer but unless medical care is unlimited does there not have to be some allocation in effect as there is now based on ability to pay? This is CERTAINLY not to imply that the government is the entity that should be doing the allocating but pretending medical care is infinite and all should get ideal treatment is just naive; limits exist now and are inevitable. For that matter, if it is a true statistic, does it really make sense that 30% of a person’s medical expenses are incurred in the last year of life? The truth is that medical care is a limited resource and pretending otherwise is disingenuous.