Border Agents Ramos and Compean Should Be Pardoned

by Pup on January 15, 2009

Does anyone else besides me think that if President Bush does not pardon these two men, that it will be one of the first things our new president will do?

If I were our president-elect, I would, as a manipulative maneuver to win over more hearts and minds.  I could be completely off base here, and I have no facts to back up my suspicion.  That’s all it is, a suspicion, and a thought that it would be the “smart” move.

I still have hope that President Bush will pardon them.  But if he doesn’t, the new administration has an opportunity to surprise us and continue to try to convince us that he is “the good guy.”

If it happens this way, I will be very suspicious, but thankful at the same time, for I want these two men free of prison and able to return to their families.

So, as I asked above, am I the only one who has thought of this?  Comment below, tell me what you think.

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ellen January 15, 2009 at 9:34 am

I have been wishing I could contact Pres. Bush about this for 2 weeks. He really should pardon the 2 border agents, who didn’t even know that they hit the illegal crossing the border.

Conservative Pup January 15, 2009 at 9:56 am

Hi Ellen!

Thanks for coming by! I wanted to contact the President so badly, but didn’t think any message would “get through”. I called one of our senators and just asked if I could leave a message for the Senator to “pass on to the president.” It may still not have gotten through, but at least I felt like I had tried.

Hope you are well. Thanks again for the visit and the comment.

Kathy January 15, 2009 at 2:31 pm

Our new president seems to be a “likeable” guy, able to please just about everyone when he tries very hard. For his inaugural prayer events he will have Pastor Rick Warren, a Christian whose most recent claim to fame comes from openly opposing Prop. 8 in California, and Bishop V. Gene Robinson, the first openly gay bishop ordained in the Episcopal church in New Hampshire, which divided that church organization, as it should. From the New York Times, “…Mr. Obama and his team were…seeking to heal the pain that Mr. Warren’s selection had caused among lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender advocates.” (Is this victimspeak? gasp)

Also from the Times, “Bishop Robinson said he had been reading inaugural prayers through history and was “horrified” at how “specifically and aggressively Christian they were.”

“I am very clear,” he said, “that this will not be a Christian prayer, and I won’t be quoting Scripture or anything like that. The texts that I hold as sacred are not sacred texts for all Americans, and I want all people to feel that this is their prayer.”

Wow. Believe it or not, Mr. Robinson, America was founded as a Christian nation, which is why you enjoy the freedoms you do. If you really hate that part about America, there are other countries to live in. There are plenty of us here that like the freedoms we have and praise God for them every day.

One more person I just found out about who will be there offering a prayer: Ingrid Mattson, the first female president of the Islamic Society of Northern America, a group with admitted ties to Hamas, and the Muslim Brotherhood as well as being an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation’s troubles.
Read more at http://www.jihadwatch.org, then let the party begin.

So, to answer your question, yes, I think I can envision that scenario. I do think Mr. Obama will continue to “court” evangelical christians as well as other groups, since he was so apt at swaying so many in the recent election. It is, after all, about political expediency. I wish I knew President Bush’s reasoning for not giving them a pardon.

Conservative Pup January 15, 2009 at 7:53 pm

Wow! Kathy, what a GREAT comment. Thanks so much for posting this. I think that he/they will do whatever he/they can think of to “court” the regular people of the country. Appease everybody, and “appease”, which is defined as “pacify or placate someone by acceding to their demands,” really bothers me. You’re right, he seems to want to please (appease) all groups. I don’t know about you, but I’ve heard all my life “you can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.”

I too wish I could understand why President Bush has not pardoned them. I really really wish he would.

Kathy January 15, 2009 at 8:45 pm

You are so welcome, Pup…anything for a friend.

TD Yandt January 17, 2009 at 10:39 am

Kathy, I don’t believe any of these men “hate” the freedom that the US provides them… this sounds to me like the Bishop is trying to be respectful. That he is, perhaps, trying to be inclusive in his prayerfulness. That can only be interpreted as a good thing. The more people who feel included in this ceremony the better. After all, Obama isn’t going to rule over a country that is exclusively Christian, so why choose to make a large percentage of the population feel like outsiders right from the get-go? By using non-exclusive language the Bishop is doing the right thing in this situation.

Conservative Pup January 17, 2009 at 11:46 am

Hi TD,

Thanks for coming by and for making a comment. I agree with you, to a point. Inclusiveness, defined as “not excluding any section of society or any party involved in something,” is beneficial until inclusiveness becomes neutrality, in the sense of “having no strongly marked or positive characteristics or features.” Perhaps we Christians are seeing a trend toward minimizing the importance of the Christian/Judeo faiths and traditions in this country, and are concerned because we believe these to be basic to America. I believe that a person, or a country, with no strongly held convictions is weak.

I do know and understand that many other people do not share this opinion. I don’t want any American citizen to feel excluded from American life and culture; this great country is big enough and strong enough to hold us all. What I do mind is when MY beliefs and traditions are mocked and attempts are made to remove all signs of my beliefs from public life. I wish for Obama and any president, and any of our politicians, to govern in an inclusive way, but not think that they must diminish Chrisitianity/Judaism to do so.

That is what “inclusiveness” means to some people, though it does not sound to me like that is what it means to you.

Thank you again for coming by and commenting. Please do again, anytime.

Pup

Kathy January 17, 2009 at 6:46 pm

Hello again, I suppose my wow reaction was to the statement that Mr. Robinson was “horrified” at how “specifically and aggressively Christian they were”. (speaking of previous inaugural prayers) “Horrified” is a strong word, one I use to describe my feelings at seeing violent, gory movies, but not usually when listening to or reading someone’s prayers. Ok, let’s break this down a bit…I agree that the country is not totally Christian and there is freedom for that. Obama will not be ruling over a totally Christian people. But our country was founded on Christian principles according to our founding documents, and he will be (hopefully) using those principles and documents in his governing., AND everyone, whether Christian or not, will benefit from it. As to Mr. Robinson being “horrified”, I would like to ask, when a country’s foundations are Christian, why are prayers offered at an inauguration by, most likely, a Christian pastor, “horrifying”? See, this sounds like he thinks it shouldn’t be so, but think about it…people say prayers according what they believe and should be allowed the freedom to do so. If Mr. Robinson wants to be “inclusive” I have no beef with that. But I do take issue with his statement about being “horrified”, when he enjoys enormous privileges provided for him by the Christian principles of our nation. He might not have these same privileges in other countries. Why are Christian prayers horrifying, and why does he consider prior inaugural prayers “aggressively Christian”? I maintain it is because he believes inaugural prayers should not be Christian prayers…but everyone who prays is afforded free speech rights, yeah?
And pup, your statements are well said.

Kathy January 19, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Well pup, you are getting your wish…it’s noon on Monday, January 19 (Martin Luther King day) and the news just reported that the president has indeed commuted the sentences of Ramos and Compean. Yea for him and yea for them.

Conservative Pup January 19, 2009 at 1:31 pm

HOORAYYYYY!!!!!!!

Thanks Kathy, for letting me know about this. I’ve been outside and had just come back in. Hadn’t listened to any news since early morning.

Well, God bless the President and God bless them. Thank God.

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