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		<title>By: Conservative Pup</title>
		<link>http://www.conservativepup.com/american-history-started-in-1877-according-to-north-carolina/.html/comment-page-1#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>Conservative Pup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sneed, I can only speak for myself, and won&#039;t try to speak for the others, but I know that this current mess is not solely at the hands of the Democrats.  Kris is correct when she says that Pres. Bush tried to rein in the mortgage/give-a-house-to-anybody requirements for the banks.  At the same time, I didn&#039;t like the &quot;No child left behind&quot; act, nor did I like some of the other spending sprees that Congress has been on for the past 20 years. FWIW, I believe that Republicans have been almost as guilty, maybe as guilty, of over-spending and expanding government over the past 20 years as the Dims.  I don&#039;t see the GOP&#039;s motive though as one of intentional Marxism, like I do the Dims.

That said, I remain a firm supporter of George Bush for the stance he took after we were attacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sneed, I can only speak for myself, and won&#8217;t try to speak for the others, but I know that this current mess is not solely at the hands of the Democrats.  Kris is correct when she says that Pres. Bush tried to rein in the mortgage/give-a-house-to-anybody requirements for the banks.  At the same time, I didn&#8217;t like the &#8220;No child left behind&#8221; act, nor did I like some of the other spending sprees that Congress has been on for the past 20 years. FWIW, I believe that Republicans have been almost as guilty, maybe as guilty, of over-spending and expanding government over the past 20 years as the Dims.  I don&#8217;t see the GOP&#8217;s motive though as one of intentional Marxism, like I do the Dims.</p>
<p>That said, I remain a firm supporter of George Bush for the stance he took after we were attacked.</p>
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		<title>By: ClassicFilm</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClassicFilm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Item that was published in The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/11/25/the_economic_challenge_facing_democrats/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boston Globe,&lt;/a&gt; November 25, 2006:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Democrat Barney Frank, the reliably liberal incoming chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, has been meeting with business groups offering a grand bargain. Democrats will lighten up on regulations that business finds burdensome, if business stops beating up on unions and starts supporting measures like broadened health coverage and a higher minimum wage. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Also from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2008/07/13/fed_treasury_step_up_to_backstop_gses/?page=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Boston Globe,&lt;/a&gt; dated July 13, 2008:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Dan Fuss, vice chairman of Boston-based Loomis Sayles, which oversees more than $100 billion in fixed-income securities, also said he had been buying Fannie and Freddie paper in recent days because it was &quot;outstanding value.&quot;

Freddie and Fannie debt rallied sharply on Friday as investors bet they would get closer government backing and analysts said that this was in fact happening.

&quot;Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have never been more related to the U.S. government,&quot; said Margaret Kerins, U.S. agency strategist at RBS Greenwich Capital in Chicago.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/10/06/democrats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US News and World Report,&lt;/a&gt; October 6, 2008:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Seventeen. That&#039;s how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress has cooperated only once. In spring 2007, as House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank likes to point out, the House did pass a bill in response. The Senate did not act until 2008; Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd spent most of 2007 camped out in Iowa running for president. The legislation passed by Congress in 2008 enabled Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to put Fannie and Freddie into federal conservatorship this summer when they failed. But it didn&#039;t prevent them from spewing a huge amount of toxic waste, in the form of subprime and Alt-A mortgages, into our financial institutions from 2004 to 2007. As Stephen Spruiell points out in The Corner on National Review Online, Fannie and Freddie spewed out &lt;em&gt;$1 trillion worth&lt;/em&gt; (face value) of subprime mortgages between 2005 and 2007. That&#039;s a whole lot of toxic waste...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dang that Bush!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Item that was published in The <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/11/25/the_economic_challenge_facing_democrats/" rel="nofollow">Boston Globe,</a> November 25, 2006:</p>
<blockquote><p>Democrat Barney Frank, the reliably liberal incoming chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, has been meeting with business groups offering a grand bargain. Democrats will lighten up on regulations that business finds burdensome, if business stops beating up on unions and starts supporting measures like broadened health coverage and a higher minimum wage. </p></blockquote>
<p>Also from <a href="http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2008/07/13/fed_treasury_step_up_to_backstop_gses/?page=2" rel="nofollow">The Boston Globe,</a> dated July 13, 2008:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dan Fuss, vice chairman of Boston-based Loomis Sayles, which oversees more than $100 billion in fixed-income securities, also said he had been buying Fannie and Freddie paper in recent days because it was &#8220;outstanding value.&#8221;</p>
<p>Freddie and Fannie debt rallied sharply on Friday as investors bet they would get closer government backing and analysts said that this was in fact happening.</p>
<p>&#8220;Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have never been more related to the U.S. government,&#8221; said Margaret Kerins, U.S. agency strategist at RBS Greenwich Capital in Chicago.</p></blockquote>
<p>From <a href="http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/10/06/democrats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac.html" rel="nofollow">US News and World Report,</a> October 6, 2008:</p>
<blockquote><p>Seventeen. That&#8217;s how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress has cooperated only once. In spring 2007, as House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank likes to point out, the House did pass a bill in response. The Senate did not act until 2008; Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd spent most of 2007 camped out in Iowa running for president. The legislation passed by Congress in 2008 enabled Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to put Fannie and Freddie into federal conservatorship this summer when they failed. But it didn&#8217;t prevent them from spewing a huge amount of toxic waste, in the form of subprime and Alt-A mortgages, into our financial institutions from 2004 to 2007. As Stephen Spruiell points out in The Corner on National Review Online, Fannie and Freddie spewed out <em>$1 trillion worth</em> (face value) of subprime mortgages between 2005 and 2007. That&#8217;s a whole lot of toxic waste&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Dang that Bush!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sneed Hearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sneed Hearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those of you who believe the current mess was caused by the democrats without participation by the reps are delusional. This is and was totally a bipartisan accomplishment. You can point to one party as being more to blame for a particular aspect but the other party is to blame for different ones. The reps controlled both houses of congress and the presidency for SIX YEARS and just what did they clean up during that time? Which administration was it that started us down the slippery bailout slope? The donkey and the elephant both need to be euthanized and failing to realize that just helps to perpetuate the undeserved life of the bloated and dysfunctional DC abomination, may it rot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those of you who believe the current mess was caused by the democrats without participation by the reps are delusional. This is and was totally a bipartisan accomplishment. You can point to one party as being more to blame for a particular aspect but the other party is to blame for different ones. The reps controlled both houses of congress and the presidency for SIX YEARS and just what did they clean up during that time? Which administration was it that started us down the slippery bailout slope? The donkey and the elephant both need to be euthanized and failing to realize that just helps to perpetuate the undeserved life of the bloated and dysfunctional DC abomination, may it rot.</p>
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		<title>By: AFVET</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 16:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Kris.
Bush tried many many times to stop the downward spiral of the mortgage mess.
Carter started that, Clinton accelerated it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Kris.<br />
Bush tried many many times to stop the downward spiral of the mortgage mess.<br />
Carter started that, Clinton accelerated it.</p>
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		<title>By: Conservative Pup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Pup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the comments.  Thanks Kris, for standing up for Pres. Bush in my absence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the comments.  Thanks Kris, for standing up for Pres. Bush in my absence.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert "the infidel" Garding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert "the infidel" Garding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that the left just will not learn from history, or they are incapable of it, so they only wish to change it so that the rest of us know the history they want on the books.....which is a lie.  Trouble is, history is never much more than one generation out of all of us knowing the truth.  History books get changed, teaching changes, viola, new history, no one knows what really happened.  Great post my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that the left just will not learn from history, or they are incapable of it, so they only wish to change it so that the rest of us know the history they want on the books&#8230;..which is a lie.  Trouble is, history is never much more than one generation out of all of us knowing the truth.  History books get changed, teaching changes, viola, new history, no one knows what really happened.  Great post my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris, in New England</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris, in New England</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what - GW Bush has been out of office for over a year. In fact, Democrats have been in control of Congress since 2006.

In fact, President GW Bush tried - in vain - to regulate Fanny &amp; Freddie back in 2006, 2+ years before the housing meltdown. And who thwarted him? Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barney Franks - all Democrats. Oh yeah and one more - Barack Obama. Who voted in favor of the bailouts too.

If you are going to point fingers, get them going in the right direction.

It&#039;s time to let Mr. Bush go and focus on the here-and-now. It&#039;s time for Democrats to man-up, take responsibility for their own messes and stop foisting blame anywhere but where it belongs.

There will be more states like the delusional North Carolina who will try to rewrite history in favor of their own agenda. I am reminded of my favorite words from the document that many citizens forget gave us the liberties and freedoms they so often take for granted:

&lt;i&gt;Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. &lt;b&gt;But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government&lt;/b&gt;, and to provide new Guards for their future security.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what &#8211; GW Bush has been out of office for over a year. In fact, Democrats have been in control of Congress since 2006.</p>
<p>In fact, President GW Bush tried &#8211; in vain &#8211; to regulate Fanny &amp; Freddie back in 2006, 2+ years before the housing meltdown. And who thwarted him? Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Barney Franks &#8211; all Democrats. Oh yeah and one more &#8211; Barack Obama. Who voted in favor of the bailouts too.</p>
<p>If you are going to point fingers, get them going in the right direction.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to let Mr. Bush go and focus on the here-and-now. It&#8217;s time for Democrats to man-up, take responsibility for their own messes and stop foisting blame anywhere but where it belongs.</p>
<p>There will be more states like the delusional North Carolina who will try to rewrite history in favor of their own agenda. I am reminded of my favorite words from the document that many citizens forget gave us the liberties and freedoms they so often take for granted:</p>
<p><i>Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. <b>But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government</b>, and to provide new Guards for their future security.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sneed Hearn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sneed Hearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AFVET: Lets not forget little george started the whole bailout process in his dimwitted attempt to save capitalism by killing it. If he had come out and made an intelligible statement to the effect that those that deserved to fail would be free to do so and the government was not going to intervene and had no authority to then everything could have turned out differently. And Paulson and Bernanke were his appointments for whom he must answer. Seems to me that never in the last 100 years or so of American history have two such utter incompetents held the top office and whether it will be possible to recover from this deadly duo is an open question. That&#039;s not to say comrade zero isn&#039;t far more dangerous but he is following the path laid out by his predecessor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFVET: Lets not forget little george started the whole bailout process in his dimwitted attempt to save capitalism by killing it. If he had come out and made an intelligible statement to the effect that those that deserved to fail would be free to do so and the government was not going to intervene and had no authority to then everything could have turned out differently. And Paulson and Bernanke were his appointments for whom he must answer. Seems to me that never in the last 100 years or so of American history have two such utter incompetents held the top office and whether it will be possible to recover from this deadly duo is an open question. That&#8217;s not to say comrade zero isn&#8217;t far more dangerous but he is following the path laid out by his predecessor.</p>
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		<title>By: AFVET</title>
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		<dc:creator>AFVET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The libs&#039;  ignorance will be their downfall.
Thanks to blogs like this and many others, and FOX, and conservative talk radio, &quot;We The People&quot; are alert, aware, and on post.
I feel that as we get closer to November election time, we will see the Obama administration yank all the stops out from under our economy in order to attempt to display to America that he, the Obama, can save us.
I hope I&#039;m wrong.
The tacticians in his administration are socialistic in nature.
Obama hates the American Philosophy.
The wrecking ball that is going through our economy swings from the White House.
I miss George and Laura.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The libs&#8217;  ignorance will be their downfall.<br />
Thanks to blogs like this and many others, and FOX, and conservative talk radio, &#8220;We The People&#8221; are alert, aware, and on post.<br />
I feel that as we get closer to November election time, we will see the Obama administration yank all the stops out from under our economy in order to attempt to display to America that he, the Obama, can save us.<br />
I hope I&#8217;m wrong.<br />
The tacticians in his administration are socialistic in nature.<br />
Obama hates the American Philosophy.<br />
The wrecking ball that is going through our economy swings from the White House.<br />
I miss George and Laura.</p>
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